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Special Support Issues

 

Issue: System cannot startup due to switching on printer

Models involved: 5TDM0, 5TDM1, 5TDM2, 5TTM0, 5TTM1, 5TTL which were manufactured before October 1997

Description: The system is connected to the printer (or other device which uses the printerport) and cannot startup due to an electrical pulse caused by the switching on of the printer to the mainboard`s microcontroller. The pulse flows through the pull-up resistors which had been added to the mainboard`s printerport in order to support printerport test devices (loopback). This pulse will block the microcontroller and prevent it from starting up as usual.

This problem will only occur when the following conditions are met:

  1. the mainboard is one of the above mentioned models manufactured before October 1997
  2. the printer is being switched on before the system power is turned on (typical situation for onsite installations of especially currently energy saving printers).

Please note:

  1. This problem will not happen if the printer happens to be still on after the PC system has been used and turned off. The problem only occurs when a switching on pulse from the printer blocks the microcontroller before startup.
  2. The problem has been found to occur mainly when AMD K6 CPU`s are installed. Systems equipped with Intel MMX CPU`s will usually not have this kind of problem.

Solution:

The solution to this problem is to make sure that the printer`s power is not being switched on when the PC system is turned off. So turn on the system`s power first before switching on the printer`s power.

Please note:
Some energy saving printermodels do not have a power switch. In this case, usually only the first time after installation the above problem could occur. Make sure the system is turned on before the powercord is attached to the printer.

 

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Issue: Overheating Alarm Sounding Often with AMD K6 CPU

Models involved: 5TDM0, 5TDM1, 5TTM0, 5TTM1

Description: The APTC overheating protection technology used in the above mentioned mainboards depends on a signal coming from the heat sensor near the CPU. This sensor has been set at a certain value (temperature), which was based on data provided by Intel/AMD/Cyrix. In practice, however, it appears that the AMD K6 CPU often operates at a higher temperature than this APTC critical temperature value. As a result, the APTC technology regards this temperature as an overheating problem and subsequently slows down the CPU and issues a sound warning to the user.

Furthermore, there are only few thermal solutions (fan/heatsink) that are sufficient to deal with the heat dissipation of the AMD K6 CPU. The ones that have been approved by AMD for use with these processors can be found on AMD`s website. Using a non-approved fan will aggravate the above mentioned problem

Solution: the critical temperature on the sensors of above mentioned mainboards is fixed. In order to prevent the APTC from sounding, there are two possible solutions:

  • ( 1 ) If your system`s APTC only occasionally sounds the overheating warning, then you might be able to solve the problem by using an AMD approved thermal solution. In the case of the 5TTM1, which uses the highly sensitive thermistor, it is possible to reduce the problem by making sure the thermistor does not touch the surface of the CPU by bending the thermistor and/or placing a piece of non-heatconducting material (piece of paper) between the CPU and the thermistor.
  • If your system has been equipped with an AMD approved thermal solution and solution ( 1 ) does not solve your problem, then you should disable the APTC function in the BIOS setup. This APTC enable/disable function is only available on BIOS updates with a datecode later than October, 1997. Please update your BIOS with the latest BIOS update which can be found through the BIOS Instruction page.

 

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Issue: CPU Speed Recognition Problem At System Startup

Models involved: 5TDM0, 5TDM1, 5TDM2, 5TTM0, 5TTM1, 6LTM, 6LTS

Description: The CPU`s ID and speed recognition is done by a BIOS routine which probes the CPU and uses timing checks and a CPU lookup table to determine the exact ID and speed of the CPU. If the system is being reset during this CPU detection phase (so before the startup screen appears on your monitor) the SeePU technology will regard the detection either as correct (if the timing check results correspond to a certain CPU ID/speed in the CPU lookup table) but show the wrong speed, or it will regard the detection as failed and then return to its default values before the system. was setup, which is also different from the used CPU`s speed.

Wrong recognition may also happen when the system is switched off and on too fast. After switching off the PC system, there are still a lot of residual voltages present within the PC board. After a few seconds these voltages will have disappeared. However, if the system is switched on again when these voltages are still present, the timing checks of the SeePU technology may also be influenced. In general also for harddisks it is considered not suitable to switch the PC system on and off very fast due to the sensitivity of harddisks for electrical pulses.

Due to varying timing specifications of SDRAM modules on the market, the use of certain SDRAM modules may also cause a wrong recognition. on the 5TDM0/1, 5TTM0/1 mainboards. Recommended modules are mentioned on the mainboard`s manual addendum.

Solution:

1.) Do not press reset before the startup screen appears.

2.) After the system has been switched off, it is necessary to wait wait about 10 seconds before switching the system on.

3.) When using SDRAM DIMM modules, use recommended SDRAM module brands, which are mentioned on the mainboard`s manual addendum.

4.) for the 5TDM0/5TDM1/5TTM0, use the 09/19/97 BIOS update or later official released BIOS updates

If you have CPU recognition problems that cannot be solved by the above 4 guidelines, then please contact our Technical Support and mention the following information in your e-mail:

  1. Mainboard model and PCB version
  2. BIOS version (datecode)
  3. Memory modules brand/type/size
  4. Other hardware related information (the more complete, the better)
  5. Description of the problem (which CPU is used and how is it recognized by the BIOS)
  6. An estimation of the occurrence of the problem (% of startups)

 

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Issue: After system startup the system will power down immediately

Models involved: 6LTM, 6LTS

Description: After switching on the power by pressing the powerbutton the harddisks will start spinning, but then almost immediately power down again.

The problem is caused by the powersupply which is not capable of providing enough standby current. The 6LTM and 6LTS, which are loaded with new features on the board, need a higher standby current in order to function properly.

Solution: Make sure you use a power supply with a standby current of 50mA or higher. Some older power supplies are only capable of delivering 30mA. Almost every power supply mentions this current value on the sticker on top of the power supply.

 

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Issue: Linux installation problems

Models involved: All models with Trend ChipAwayVirus boot virus protection

Description: Installation of Linux OS fails

Solution: Disable the ChipAwayVirus function in the virus. If your BIOS does not contain this option, then make sure to download the latest BIOS update for your mainboard model.

 

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